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with a view to seeing whether any sections could be usefully put up to tender. One further point arises in this connection.

The Chief Resident Engineer maintains that he can do the Tunnel work 25 per centum cheaper himself than any contractor can. If the work is run on strictly economical and economical business lines this is not perhaps an over-statement since the contractor's profits are saved. The advantage of the contract system therefore is primarily in saving of time. The governing factor in this line is the Tunnel, and if all the rest of the line can be completed well before the Tunnel is, the advantage of saving time by contracts for anything except the Tunnel is not obvious.

The point at issue therefore is not a question of time but of cost, viz.:- whether the work can really be done appreciably cheaper by the Railway Management or by Contract.

Turning next to (b) I should like to see the Instructions to which Mr. Ives refers. Large contracts (other of course than a contract for the whole Tunnel or similar ones) can I presume be entered into with the sanction of the Govern-

(c) has already been dealt with under (a), but in view of this statement it is all the more necessary that Government should be able to satisfy itself on this point.

3.

The next point discussed was Tunnel Contracts. There are at present very small lengths (15 feet) but Mr. Ives said he had recently entered into a contract with one of his own Overseers (Chinese) for an unlimited amount at a specified rate per foot terminable on either side at a week's notice. He informed us that his difficulty in this matter was that if he let a contract to a Chinese the work involved as much supervision as if being undertaken by his own staff. If he let small sections to European Contractors they were capable of carrying it out without detailed supervision. In neither case however was there any contract in the usual sense of the word. There was no public tender, no competition was invited, no security deposited

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694 with a view to seeing whether any sections could be usefully put up to tender. One further point arises in this connection. The Chief Resident Engineer maintains that he can do the Tunnel work 25 per centum cheaper himself than any contractor can. If the work is run on strictly economical and economical business lines this is not perhaps an over-statement since the contractor's profits are saved. The advantage of the contract system therefore is primarily in saving of time. The governing factor in this line is the Tunnel, and if all the rest of the line can be completed well before the Tunnel is, the advantage of saving time by contracts for anything except the Tunnel is not obvious. The point at issue therefore is not a question of time but of cost, viz.:- whether the work can really be done appreciably cheaper by the Railway Management or by Contract. Turning next to (b) I should like to see the Instructions to which Mr. Ives refers. Large contracts (other of course than a contract for the whole Tunnel or similar ones) can I presume be entered into with the sanction of the Govern- (c) has already been dealt with under (a), but in view of this statement it is all the more necessary that Government should be able to satisfy itself on this point. 3. The next point discussed was Tunnel Contracts. There are at present very small lengths (15 feet) but Mr. Ives said he had recently entered into a contract with one of his own Overseers (Chinese) for an unlimited amount at a specified rate per foot terminable on either side at a week's notice. He informed us that his difficulty in this matter was that if he let a contract to a Chinese the work involved as much supervision as if being undertaken by his own staff. If he let small sections to European Contractors they were capable of carrying it out without detailed supervision. In neither case however was there any contract in the usual sense of the word. There was no public tender, no competition was invited, no security deposited
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694 tariw Joelloser to¤ ob I .beciainit at Xrow edt IIIS MILIO IIa no balg ed binosta I),estng Jostinos adið erod aidé noltrogong Jadivemos siseggs matsya uldt .ataupabani bezwen 32 tud (won ot Jom ob "anoitouiteni Isionani" .ytojostaitaanu bia "salvN#TVİ Yawiłaя Yo metayä Lažnamtraged end of yiqqa vierijne aqACTOR .noR .@rubaoong dowe od bezoggo al 101 eisk tud „coltowitano) mwob di blaf hæð næriða¤ «M “IB Jarið boðaða vratotoeë Leinolað Tra otni redne tou binode resniyni inobiasfi Tol50 add dadd berteɛdo I „šnaanoo a'montavot ant žvontkw 008) Tevo Jostinos berised I taru Sarið hita¿wol Ciev na of bomson simii niáð Smás ÍNSMITTEvod tad3 as Iía da jimii venoz bexit s kovet da don ma ki gaitetto stew adoatinoo Jadw to #gbelwomi #tom avani bluoda axyet ollduq to rotsentɑ „nok sát to asolvisa sát Šariš sabro JI .reentyal Snehiaaf totɗið mat tulena of siɗallava od đáykm -tuer gaof aid to tost odd of gatwo fedź gatęsa tuontiw anog ,@ban sarf ari dolce aðosrinco eldaremurni edð „stad sonOb→ bris 11saqoʻ% #TOJO@TINO0 Imoo¡ ¡La to egbelwom Lanomteq užd enløv Jaery 20 ad eum aðŠAM a dove at sonstulera aid - eaenidɔ dółw triglow iseng Trias Dinow #rebnet edt no noiniqo ali baa al yowiłaЯ sát teoo eeofw da ban Ladad saoitw no desmoterol odż qua ni gairetrešai to noitesup a ton tI .betovidando anted bra 100 ni reentyna Jaebleef teino ent to nolaiv"equa odò sitiw LAW platem Jud,Tiliidianoquer sid gaineasel to 1O BIDJJAH YAWILGA zetłasb ori Koldw) udomičnoo to gatosiq odt ni mid gaitalans to noliærego-oo add gaiteline egatravbe tasď arið (moaiq ot Teiro and 21 .sonstraque Ladoi rodanty evať odw emasid ke blvode od stoterend doætindo a tel of aeniaed resnigm tnsblaef of merit dizuiwe buæ,»nd anoldmoifioequ prasasɔen add vraqorq ed dotriw Xrrow add to% aretto yna diłw radiźsgod Inssaïsvoð adi erið Jarð Tísaði valtaa nedt L£kw Inemarievoð sɗt .bentatdo aar od qu ji galtinq yo yidadorq) »Idani-tɗe fuod edt al toærðmoo -ning siɗt Xairis I .#neloittua si y‡truosa arið dæcis bas (rshnet tekið sið tædt bre¿Teátust neve bet¬rao od tágim siglo- olidut to rotoerið náð aðłw savoalb bloda Toentynä ±nobiasf brad at stow awoktav add alɗð as dove galtoem a je 10 RÍTO rid tw with a view to seeing whether any sections could be usefully put up to tender. One further point arises in this connection. The Chief Resident Engineer maintains that he can do the Tunnel work 25 per centum cheaper himself than any contractor can. If the work is run on strictly economical and economical business lines this is not perhaps an over-statement since the contract- -or's profits are saved. The advantage of the contract system therefore is primarily in saving of time. The governing factor in this line is the Tunnel, and if all the rest of the line can be completed well before the Tunnel is, the advantage of saving time by contracts for anything except the Tunnel is not obvious. The point at issue therefore is not a question of time but of cost, viz.:- whether the work can really be done appreciably cheaper by the Railway Management or by Contract, Turning next to (b) I should like to see the Instructions to which Mr. Ives refers. Large contracts (other of course than a contract for the whole Tunnel or similar ones) can I presume be entered into with the sanction of the Govern- (c) has already been dealt with under (a), but in view of this statement it is all the more necessary that Government should be able to satisfy itself on this point. 3. The next point discussed was Tunnel Contracts. There are at present very small lengths (15 feet) but Mr. Ives said he had recently entered into a contract with one of his own Overseers (Chinese) for an unlimited amount at a specified rate per foot terminable on either side at a week's notice. He in- -formed us that his difficulty in this matter was that if he let a contract to a Chinese the work involved as much super- -vision as if being undertaken by his own staff. If he let small sections to European Kiners they were capable of carrying it out without detailed supervision. In neither case however was there any contract in the usual sense of the word. There was no public tender, no competition was invited, no security deposited
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tariw Joelloser to¤ ob I .beciainit at Xrow edt IIIS MILIO IIa no balg ed binosta I),estng Jostinos adið oð erod aidé noltrogong Jadivemos siseggs matsya uldt .ataupabani bezwen 32 tud (won ot

Jom ob "anoitouiteni Isionani" .ytojostaitaanu bia "salvN#TVİ Yawiłaя Yo metayä Lažnamtraged end of yiqqa vierijne aqACTOR

.noR .@rubaoong dowe od bezoggo al 101 eisk tud „coltowitano)

mwob di blaf hæð næriða¤ «M “IB Jarið boðaða vratotoeë Leinolað

Tra otni redne tou binode resniyni inobiasfi Tol50 add dadd berteɛdo I „šnaanoo a'montavot ant žvontkw 008) Tevo Jostinos

berised I taru Sarið hita¿wol Ciev na of bomson simii niáð Smás

ÍNSMITTEvod tad3 as Iía da jimii venoz bexit s kovet da don ma

ki gaitetto stew adoatinoo Jadw to #gbelwomi #tom avani bluoda

axyet ollduq to rotsentɑ „nok sát to asolvisa sát Šariš sabro

JI .reentyal Snehiaaf totɗið mat tulena of siɗallava od đáykm

-tuer gaof aid to tost odd of gatwo fedź gatęsa tuontiw anog

,@ban sarf ari dolce aðosrinco eldaremurni edð „stad sonOb→

bris 11saqoʻ% #TOJO@TINO0 Imoo¡ ¡La to egbelwom Lanomteq užd

enløv Jaery 20 ad eum aðŠAM a dove at sonstulera aid - eaenidɔ

dółw triglow iseng Trias Dinow #rebnet edt no noiniqo ali baa

al yowiłaЯ sát teoo eeofw da ban Ladad saoitw no desmoterol odż

qua ni gairetrešai to noitesup a ton må tI .betovidando anted

bra

100

ni reentyna Jaebleef teino ent to nolaiv"equa odò sitiw LAW

platem Jud,Tiliidianoquer sid gaineasel to 1O BIDJJAH YAWILGA zetłasb ori Koldw) udomičnoo to gatosiq odt ni mid gaitalans to

noliærego-oo add gaiteline yɗ egatravbe tasď arið oð (moaiq ot

Teiro and 21 .sonstraque Ladoi rodanty evať odw emasid ke blvode od stoterend doætindo a tel of aeniaed resnigm tnsblaef

of merit dizuiwe buæ,»nd anoldmoifioequ prasasɔen add vraqorq ed dotriw Xrrow add to% aretto yna diłw radiźsgod Inssaïsvoð adi

erið Jarð Tísaði valtaa nedt L£kw Inemarievoð sɗt .bentatdo aar

od qu ji galtinq yo yidadorq) »Idani-tɗe fuod edt al toærðmoo

-ning siɗt Xairis I .#neloittua si y‡truosa arið dæcis bas (rshnet tekið sið tædt bre¿Teátust neve bet¬rao od tágim siglo- olidut to rotoerið náð aðłw savoalb bloda Toentynä ±nobiasf

brad at stow awoktav add alɗð as dove galtoem a je 10 RÍTO rid tw

with a view to seeing whether any sections could be usefully

put up to tender. One further point arises in this connection.

The Chief Resident Engineer maintains that he can do the Tunnel

work 25 per centum cheaper himself than any contractor can. If

the work is run on strictly economical and economical business

lines this is not perhaps an over-statement since the contract-

-or's profits are saved. The advantage of the contract system

therefore is primarily in saving of time. The governing factor

in this line is the Tunnel, and if all the rest of the line can

be completed well before the Tunnel is, the advantage of saving

time by contracts for anything except the Tunnel is not obvious.

The point at issue therefore is not a question of time but of

cost, viz.:- whether the work can really be done appreciably

cheaper by the Railway Management or by Contract,

Turning next to (b) I should like to see the

Instructions to which Mr. Ives refers. Large contracts (other

of course than a contract for the whole Tunnel or similar ones)

can I presume be entered into with the sanction of the Govern-

(c) has already been dealt with under (a), but in view

of this statement it is all the more necessary that Government

should be able to satisfy itself on this point.

3.

The next point discussed was Tunnel Contracts. There are

at present very small lengths (15 feet) but Mr. Ives said he

had recently entered into a contract with one of his own

Overseers (Chinese) for an unlimited amount at a specified rate

per foot terminable on either side at a week's notice. He in-

-formed us that his difficulty in this matter was that if he

let a contract to a Chinese the work involved as much super-

-vision as if being undertaken by his own staff. If he let

small sections to European Kiners they were capable of carrying

it out without detailed supervision. In neither case however

was there any contract in the usual sense of the word. There was

no public tender, no competition was invited, no security

deposited

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